tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post4671893917556721446..comments2023-10-25T19:40:32.887+08:00Comments on Disquiet: The Human ConditionMalik Imtiaz Sarwarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06047439912593830984noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-26943487291713169782008-07-20T00:37:00.000+08:002008-07-20T00:37:00.000+08:00People may not commit a crime first hand, they may...People may not commit a crime first hand, they may well instigate and fuel it with words, to a level so worse than plunging the whole country into chaos and violence.<BR/>A trial in court is a long drawn procedure, one can rarely wait for this with a numerous loopholes for escape.<BR/><BR/>Hitler used to be a smooth talker, a voracious speaker who moved the masses with his thundering speeches. He created enough chaos in the country and mired it in violence and confusion.<BR/>He was put on trials, sent to jails, even beaten up. But he always sneaked out through legal loopholes. He ultimately came to power by winning an election where he secured only 34% of the votes - being the largest vote share compared to many other smaller parties who were all in dissaray.<BR/>He took this oppurtunity to form a govt and so began his reign.<BR/>Once in power he changed everything - conquered half of europe.<BR/><BR/>ISA is a necessity to prevent such pandemonium that may arise.<BR/>Don't blame Mahathir - He did what he considered the most apt solution to deal. Mahathir was one the most intelligent and perhaps sly leader who kept his govt firm and a country in stability and prosperity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-18384411346238972412008-07-17T06:35:00.000+08:002008-07-17T06:35:00.000+08:00Bro MIS,ISA have its advantages especially for tho...Bro MIS,<BR/><BR/>ISA have its advantages especially for those believe in Draconian Law to safeguard their (personal) interest BUT using the excuse of security (or SAKU-rity) threats.<BR/><BR/>Even jungle-minded people very hard to accept this Draconian's.<BR/><BR/>karlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-33793669050651827162008-07-16T12:13:00.000+08:002008-07-16T12:13:00.000+08:00As cruel as the ISA is, it still has one more serv...As cruel as the ISA is, it still has one more service that it has to perform for the country and the people.<BR/><BR/>It is the most appropriate means of subduing the UMNO leaders and warlords when the time comes when UMNO falls. <BR/><BR/>I cannot imagine them or their families running to you for habeas corpus or whatever other applications. <BR/><BR/>Trouble for them will be all those lawyers with all those experience will be on the wrong side of the fence. I wonder how the UMNO lawyers will deal with it. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, I can at least for the moment salivate over this hoped for fantasy.Old Farthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06473446507494861946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-83332761810220206372008-07-16T11:51:00.000+08:002008-07-16T11:51:00.000+08:00I hv never bothered to read blogs before and blind...I hv never bothered to read blogs before and blindly thought what was reported in the mainstream newspapers were the only truthful versions even during the reformasi era!!! I have only just started to do after being introduced to Malaysia Today in early 2008. OMG I was initially aghast at the language used to describe Mahathir in many comments of the blog sites because I have actually admired him...still do as a matter of fact. He's not a perfect human being of coz but he was a charismatic, considerably intelligient PM that one could listen to without feeling ashamed of how we could have voted in a stateman representing us in the international areana who couldnt even verbalize logical comments on TV??? This is digressing from your topic of coz. Anyway, I was as Mr Smith's said amongst many Malaysian guilty of shamelessly oblivious to the abuse of ISA as well as believing hook line and sinker many of the BN's propagandas all my life. Nowadays, I dont read my newspapers from front page to end without checking up what alternative news contents in the blogs like yours and others are saying and then I think about the issues after waying the facts presented. This has really opened my eyes!!! Thanks for bloggers like yourself, Rocky, RPK for keeping Malaysian informed....keep up the good work!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-39884586907690565372008-07-16T05:30:00.000+08:002008-07-16T05:30:00.000+08:00If Courts are not instrument of POWER, then it can...If Courts are not instrument of POWER, then it can has hope!<BR/>The basis point will still need to start from the Division of Parliament into at least Legislative, Executive and Monitoring Modes.<BR/>And, Lawyers and Bar Council dare to stand for Justice even if Courts went wrong!<BR/><BR/>When the Power had taken ISA to be the AXE, the Court are the executors in effect!<BR/><BR/>Too many broken pieces to put into shape, I suppose.<BR/>In practice, how many will stick to procedures, Rights & Justice?<BR/>Or, Victim has a chance of even voicing out?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-35679041865885973082008-07-16T00:09:00.000+08:002008-07-16T00:09:00.000+08:00Malikvery very well said.this draconian law will n...Malik<BR/><BR/>very very well said.<BR/><BR/>this draconian law will not go away until and unless BN is kicked out. I am confident that PR will see to that once it comes to power. As you said, for this alone, the public must give their support to PR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-67577479234160825482008-07-15T23:01:00.000+08:002008-07-15T23:01:00.000+08:00I look forward to the day where the Kamunting Dete...I look forward to the day where the Kamunting Detention Centre is turned into a Human Rights Abuse Museum similar to the Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum in Phnom Penh, Cambodia.<BR/><BR/>Well, let's get the ISA repealed first.sp limhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11418651887408472990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-49925112548242548862008-07-15T22:51:00.000+08:002008-07-15T22:51:00.000+08:00Words cannot express how angry abd depressed I fee...Words cannot express how angry abd depressed I feel about the ISA and the unjustified detentions. I love Malaysia my country (although I am probably considered by some as a kind of pendatang asing, although my ancestors have been here since the time of the Dutch rule in Malacca). I hate what is happening to our country and the rakyat and I just cannot see any good in the Government of today at all.Junahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02907176871112433931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-44440903898922279472008-07-15T20:35:00.000+08:002008-07-15T20:35:00.000+08:00I feel for those who have suffered through the abu...I feel for those who have suffered through the abuse of the ISA,<BR/><BR/>When I was child, I knew of somebody who too have suffered from the might of such abuse.<BR/><BR/>This somebody was an active member of the SDP (I think it's the Social Democratic Party which then had a symbol of a black bull head).<BR/><BR/>I remember listening in to him re-calling to the adults the torture and suffering he was subjected to. <BR/><BR/>I think it must have broken him physically and mentally, and, he finally took his own life leaving behind his sad wife to raise his young children single handedly.<BR/><BR/>His sad tale is just another unknown tale of a forgotten casualty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-45775936784861343602008-07-15T18:24:00.000+08:002008-07-15T18:24:00.000+08:00My only wish before I die is to see Mahathir and h...My only wish before I die is to see Mahathir and his family and His cohorts ensconced in Kamunting so that they can enjoy the fruits of their awesome urge for 'Power".<BR/><BR/>I remember very well the night Mrs Karpal, her sister and the son turned up at our Government residence along Jalan Damansara, Kuala Lumpur appealing for help when Karpal was arrested near Parit Buntar after he was released by the Courts from further royal residence in Kamunting.<BR/><BR/>Karpal at that time was suffering from severe back pain probably fue renal problems.<BR/><BR/>We were fortunately in a posiition to help - do not ask how - and Mrs Karpal was able to see her husband daily and feed him his chappattis. This may be a forgotten event for Karpal and his family by now.<BR/><BR/>I was over 40 years then and can still see the fear and dread and whites in the faces of those three people sitting in our patio refusing even to take a drink. Not because they were not thrirsty BUT how could someone in their position at that point of time even take a sip of water. At lease Jusus on the cross was able to sip the vinegar that the Roman soldiers offered him.<BR/><BR/>From that dat till today I bear that hurt and agony and my death wish will be fulfilled when Mahathir and his remaining crowd of looters and rapists of the land in UMNO, MIC and MCA are given the same justice they gave their 'victims'.<BR/><BR/>The cohorts of Mahathir also include his 'cronies' and sycophants in the Courts, the Civil Service and the Police. <BR/><BR/>Mahathir will go down in history on an equal status with Saddam, Mugabe; and their ilk. It is said that the children have to ' Bear the Sins of the Fathers'. God Forbid that this has to happen.DIASPORAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11706506475462990703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-90620231991501337862008-07-15T18:13:00.000+08:002008-07-15T18:13:00.000+08:00Dear Malik,I can empathise with your feelings. I a...Dear Malik,<BR/>I can empathise with your feelings. I admire that you have put those feelings to good use by defending those who are are deprived of justice. <BR/>I was first-hand witness to both May 13 and Operation Lallang. Some people I knew just disappeared aftermath of the May 13 never to surface again. I have seen suffering victims in hospital. I know how innocent people were vitimised.<BR/>As for OP L, I totally agree with your views on ISA. <BR/>But unlike Mr Smith I do not hate Dr M and wish him hell. That is for God to decide. I really feel sorry for Dr M, a man of considerable intelligence and ability who could have been truly a statesman. <BR/>On a personal note.My sons were for a while classmates of the two youngers boys of Karpal. Karpal is a real gentle person in spite of his fierce looks. I am glad his children have taken after himAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-76403317860360637762008-07-15T16:52:00.000+08:002008-07-15T16:52:00.000+08:00Malik,Boys of your age then were not interested in...Malik,<BR/>Boys of your age then were not interested in politics. So you are excused. <BR/>But I was 41 then and I had sleepless nights thinking how cruel a regime could be to detain some of the finest Malaysians we have ever known. Lim Kit Siang and his son were also detained. Imagine how Mrs Kim would have suffered. Since that day the man I hated most in my life has been Mahathir. He has a heart of stone and I hope he burns in hell.<BR/>I was one of the first to send a post card to Mahathir calling on him to charge those 120 detained in court or set them free.<BR/>Many of my friends discouraged me from doing that as they too were frightened like hell to even send a protest postcard.<BR/>But the saddest part was I saw Malaysians shamelessly oblivious to the abuse of the ISA. They kept voting for this evil regime.<BR/>I feel sick as I write this. Real sick.<BR/>Now you know I have never voted for BN in eight general elections?Mr. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18175394332412399923noreply@blogger.com