tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post7017805499268156197..comments2023-10-25T19:40:32.887+08:00Comments on Disquiet: The Personal Dignity Of HINDRAF SupportersMalik Imtiaz Sarwarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06047439912593830984noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-89338765284576398472008-10-17T21:26:00.000+08:002008-10-17T21:26:00.000+08:00I found it a bit funny with this hindraf people wh...I found it a bit funny with this hindraf people who claim to be representing the whole Indian. While other races (Chinese, Malays, Kadazan etc) were represented by political parties to voice their needs, worries and demands. Hindraf choose to do it by themselves. Don't they all learn history. How Malaysia was created... <BR/><BR/>Malaysian was created by having several parties that representing 3 main races. That includes us through MIC. If we feels that we're not been treated nicely, who should we blamed. MIC and not Malays nor the government. We all must fight for our rights through our party. Let Samy Vellu go down the drain and replace him with our trusted leader.<BR/><BR/>The problem with Hindraf followers were not because of what they believe but because they have been provoked by hand full number of peoples who wants power. This people failed to win themselves in any Indian based parties. They are just losers. <BR/><BR/>I urge all my friends, fellow Indians to ignore Hindraf. We should be shame of our self. Our act has shown our true color. We're not a stupid people who are willingly to let our self to be dragged into the fight of some morons who claims to protect our rights. Ending up we've put our self as the lowest cast among all other Malaysian. :(<BR/><BR/>I love Malays, I love Chinese, I love all other fellow Malaysian. Forgive me my friends, forgive my fellow Indians. We're not as what you might think we are.. :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-83971562145748490612008-01-06T07:32:00.000+08:002008-01-06T07:32:00.000+08:00Tempias,You mentioned one very interesting point. ...Tempias,<BR/><BR/>You mentioned one very interesting point. <BR/><BR/>That Malays are poorer than indians based on the total population ratio. <BR/><BR/>If that is the case, why didn't the Malays organise a rally for <BR/>being Marginalised?<BR/><BR/>The truth is that, most of Malays are pretty much richer, that why the are one notch higher on the Maslows theory of Needs. Please<BR/>read more and educate your mind.<BR/><BR/>Secondly regarding the claim on the trillion, only shows, how much the Indians of this country is really suffering from owning Houses, To obtaining a place in the Government Universities,To having joining a Government Job, and the list goes on.Its really isn't about the money, how do you feel if your place of worship was destroyed? <BR/><BR/>Secondly, i like to bring to mind <BR/>regarding to actual law suits to the goverment of Malaysia on the unlawful detention of ISA.<BR/><BR/>A Malay was release in a healty condition , was compensated so well was it a Million i think and the poor Indian Singh later released, tortured until he went crazy and only compensated RM1.<BR/><BR/>So the point is not the claim actually. Its was your policies are doing to the Indians.<BR/><BR/>Wake up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-41612709584747697692007-12-05T22:59:00.000+08:002007-12-05T22:59:00.000+08:00Mr Tempias you must understand that Malik or for t...Mr Tempias you must understand that Malik or for that matter Haris is of Indian or mixed Indian heritage - both Muslim, but does not fully understand the Malay psyche. This will take another generation or two before these people will be assimilated and understand that race is survival and not a dirty 4-letter word. Let's all keep your race intact and seek a solution amenable to all the cornerstone being a proportionate share of wealth across the board.<BR/>In the meantime pleae tolerate these few lost souls amongst us with enough rope to bring them back in line should the need arise. See we have sharizat , zam or even mahathir and sons and me ehemehemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-51683803951063087802007-12-03T10:20:00.000+08:002007-12-03T10:20:00.000+08:00MIS,I think you are too polite to cj abott - he is...MIS,<BR/><BR/>I think you are too polite to cj abott - he is a numbskull whose piece is not worth publishing on your blog. Don't let brainless prick like him destroy the dignity of your blog and your work and service to society.<BR/><BR/>I would like to ask cj abott what he has done for society for freeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-47425448660124140892007-12-02T22:41:00.000+08:002007-12-02T22:41:00.000+08:00Dear MIS,I salute you.To quote the comment from A ...Dear MIS,<BR/><BR/>I salute you.<BR/><BR/>To quote the comment from A Malaysia Chinese:<BR/>"I have no words to describe your stand on this matter except SALUTIONS!<BR/><BR/>If Malaysia have more people of your level of fairness, we were already in first world category.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for voicing for the discriminated."<BR/><BR/>Only wish there are people like you in our Malaysian Government. Then, our Malaysian country would be a beautiful country in this world; an envy of all the nations!<BR/><BR/>Sadly, now, its name is tarnished.<BR/><BR/>AAB looks so nice a man. Pray that he has the intelligence to settle these recent events to bring back our good name internationally, before Malaysia becomes a laughing stock for falling into the predicament of Myammar and some other countries where instability of the politics in the countries shattered the economy of the nations!<BR/><BR/>MIS, keep up your good work.<BR/><BR/>May God bless you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-55047811987435882342007-12-01T08:49:00.000+08:002007-12-01T08:49:00.000+08:00CJ Abott,am uncertain what you mean and what 'trut...CJ Abott,<BR/><BR/>am uncertain what you mean and what 'truth' you are referring to.<BR/><BR/>In general, those of us who practice human rights law do not charge for our time and service.Though there may be lawyers who profit out of this kind of work, I have yet to meet them. Those lawyers who I work with have given up large amounts of time, sometimes even helped out with the expenses (photocopying etc) simply because they appreciate that something needs to be done to help those involved. To describe the work as 'lucrative' is incorrect.<BR/><BR/>As for the publicity that comes with this kind of work, if you are suggesting that I, or other lawyers who do this kind of work, do the work FOR the publicity (meaning that we court the publicity), I will have to disagree with you. This kind of work is news-worthy, that is the reality. NGOs and activists use the publicity to highlight the cause in issue. That too is a reality. To suggest a personal gain is going too far (though I am sure there are individuals who do just that).<BR/><BR/>And, above all, it is never safe to stand out, is it?<BR/><BR/>MISMalik Imtiaz Sarwarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06047439912593830984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-36080848742083662842007-11-30T23:22:00.000+08:002007-11-30T23:22:00.000+08:00Mr Tempias, please note that Malik is a businessma...Mr Tempias, please note that Malik is a businessman and what he does is to further his legal work. Its a niche business too with a lot of risk which Malays or Chinese are not willing to thread, but its lucrative endeavour. Truth can be embarrassing, right Mr Malik?<BR/><BR/>CJ AbottAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-41714577816774220562007-11-30T16:25:00.000+08:002007-11-30T16:25:00.000+08:00Hai MIS I must say I've always enjoyed reading you...Hai MIS <BR/><BR/>I must say I've always enjoyed reading your blog..Your comments have always been just and rasional...we need more people like you around....Keep up the good work...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-39365065772398478132007-11-30T13:29:00.000+08:002007-11-30T13:29:00.000+08:00It is simple fact of fighting for the rights...I m...It is simple fact of fighting for the rights...I myself live in overseas but call myself a Malaysian....what the present government is doing is utterly WRONG..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-33787793199028345412007-11-29T14:47:00.000+08:002007-11-29T14:47:00.000+08:00yWow, the Info Minister Zam is still ranting about...yWow, the Info Minister Zam is still ranting about Al-Jazeera, even as a Malaysian-born WOMAN becomes a member of the new Australian Cabinet. I don't know why Malaysia even bother to lobby for Al-Jazeera to set up shop here if we don't want them to report on what happens here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-20706973231581913662007-11-29T11:45:00.000+08:002007-11-29T11:45:00.000+08:00Now I'M confused.First, the powers-that-be critici...Now I'M confused.<BR/>First, the powers-that-be criticise rally supporters of dragging the monarchy into the picture.<BR/>Now, they are saying that Malaysians are insulted that their King has been ignored/bypassed by the rally supporters.<BR/>Hello?!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-19745713696409506962007-11-28T12:41:00.000+08:002007-11-28T12:41:00.000+08:00Dear Friends,THE HINDU RELIGION(Swami Ramarajyam) ...Dear Friends,<BR/><BR/>THE HINDU RELIGION<BR/><BR/>(Swami Ramarajyam) <BR/><BR/>Alexander reached India in 326 AD harbouring a desire to conquer the whole<BR/>world. Porus ruled over the land lying between the Jhelum and the Chenab<BR/>rivers, which is now in Pakistan. <BR/><BR/>A war was fought between Alexander and Porus. An incident in that war made<BR/>Alexander change his attitude to life completely. <BR/><BR/>Alexander was taking rest in his army camp. His soldiers informed him that<BR/>an Indian Sadhu was applying some medicines on the wounds of the soldiers of<BR/>his army who, after being cured of their injuries in a very short time, were<BR/>ready to fight again. <BR/><BR/>Alexander had heard a lot about Indian Sadhus. But it was really astonishing<BR/>and unbelievable that an Indian Sadhu should render medical help to his<BR/>soldiers. Alexander could not sleep that night and he kept pacing up and<BR/>down in his camp. <BR/><BR/>In the morning, Alexander went to that Sadhu with an interpreter. The Sadhu<BR/>was busy giving medical treatment to the soldiers of Alexander's army.<BR/>Alexander stood near the Sadhu who did not notice him initially. After some<BR/>time, he cast a glance at him and resumed his work again. Some books were<BR/>lying nearby and he was giving medicines after consulting those books. <BR/><BR/>For the first time, in his life, Alexander saw a man who did not stand up to<BR/>show respect to him. He felt insulted but did not react. He kept standing<BR/>there. After a little while he inquired through his interpreter, "Who are<BR/>you?" <BR/><BR/>"I am a servant of God," the Sadhu replied. "Do you give medical help to the<BR/>sick?" <BR/><BR/>"No, I serve the living beings who are different forms of the one and the<BR/>same God." <BR/><BR/>"But why are you serving the enemy?" <BR/><BR/>"For me there is neither enemy nor friend. I am serving living beings, as I<BR/>said just now." <BR/><BR/>"It is beyond my comprehension," said Alexander. <BR/><BR/>So far, the Sadhu had answered Alexander's queries without looking up. Now<BR/>he looked up. <BR/><BR/>A dead ant was lying near by. The Sadhu picked it up and asked Alexander to<BR/>open his hand. Putting the dead ant on the palm of Alexander, he said, "Can<BR/>you bring this ant back to life?" <BR/><BR/>Alexander said, "No." <BR/><BR/>"If you cannot bring even an ant back to life, what right have you to take<BR/>away the lives of so many soldiers in the battlefield?" <BR/><BR/>Alexander was dumbfounded. <BR/><BR/>The Sadhu said, "I want you to give an answer to my question." <BR/><BR/>Alexander bowed his head. <BR/><BR/>The Sadhu said, "I am a Hindu. The Hindu religion is a religion of humanity.<BR/>A Hindu loves all living beings. He does not discriminate between a Hindu<BR/>and a non-Hindu, a friend and a foe. He loves one and all as diverse<BR/>manifestations of God. Do you know the language of love?" <BR/><BR/>For a little while the Sadhu looked at Alexander steadily. Then, he said,<BR/>"You know only how to take others' lives. You do not know how to infuse life<BR/>into the dead. What sort of bravery is it? Listen to my advice. Stop<BR/>killing. Learn to love others. Give up fighting for good and go back to your<BR/>country."<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Alexander said with folded hands, "I will certainly give up fighting and go<BR/>back to my country, but you must accede to a request of mine. Please<BR/>accompany me to my country and popularise your method of treatment there." <BR/><BR/>God knows whether that Sadhu accompanied Alexander or not, but by teaching<BR/>the lesson of love, he changed the pattern of his (Alexander's) life. <BR/><BR/>Dear readers, the Hindu religion is not simply a religion of a particular community called the Hindus. It is a way of proper thinking followed by actions in accord with it. It is a way of life which is based on the<BR/>assumption that all living beings- not merely human-are different forms of God and which throws the treasure of love open to all. <BR/><BR/>LET US ALL AS BANGSA MALAYSIA BRING LOVE AND HARMONY TO THIS BEAUTIFUL LAND...MALAYSIA. IN THE EVENT POLICY MAKERS AND POLITICIANS ARE READING THIS BLOG..WHETHER THEY ARE BN OR BA WAKIL RAYAATS...PLEASE DO JUSTICE TO YOUR SEATS AND DO NOT PLAY ON SENTIMENTS ALONG RACIAL LINES.<BR/>IF YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF TALKING OR SEEKING JUSTICE AND FAIRPLAY ON BEHALF OF EVERY MALAYSIANS REGARDLESS OF RACE, CREED OR RELIGION, YOU SHOULD QUIT AND DO NOT WAIT FOR AAB TO ASK YOU TO STEP DOWN PRIOR TO THE COMING GE.<BR/>YOU GUYS ARE SUPPOSE TO BE MATURED LOTS...AND DO NOT DESTROY THIS COUNTRY FOR YOUR SELFISH INTEREST.<BR/>I AM MAKING A PLEA TO ALL MALAYSIANS...IT IS TIME THAT MALAYSIANS IDENTIFY SUCH KIND OF MPs AND REJECT THEM AT THE FORTHCOMING GE. 50 YEARS HAVE GONE AFTER INDEPENDENCE AND HOW LONG MORE WE HAVE TO WAIT TO CALL OURSELVES BANGSA MALAYSIA? <BR/>I HOPE ALL RATIONALE THINKING MALAYSIANS WILL LOOK AT EVERY ISSUES OBJECTIVELY AND FIND SOUND AND PALATABLE SOLUTIONS TO ALL REAL OR PERCEIVED PROBLEMS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-92212249125094024032007-11-28T00:50:00.000+08:002007-11-28T00:50:00.000+08:00Frankly, i do not generally agree to lots of rubbi...Frankly, i do not generally agree to lots of rubbish written in this blog about Hindraf. Whether the processes taken is right or wrong is anybody's guess. At least, Hindraf had created the kind of awareness which had been swept under the carpet for years and high-handedness of authorities in as far as demolition of temples are concerned. Of course, there are plenty of other issues not only affecting Indians but other ethnic groups in Malaysia.<BR/>The Govt would have gained substantial mileage if it had allowed the rally to go peacefully and in an organised manner under the watchful eyes of our police force. It does not matter to whom the petition is to be given. Again, misinformation and state of denial has caused this ugly incidences which had been well publicised across the globe and left this beautiful country in bad taste. We are no longer living in a localised village. We are part and parcel of the global village and there is no more escape from internet and other means of electronic communication. News are flashed across the globe instanteously. No escape!<BR/>The least the authorities could have done is, put aside pride and bring Hindraf to the discussion table on various issues raised in the petition given to AAB at a gathering in Putrajaya. And all these unfortunate incidences could have been avoided. <BR/>I am sure there are plenty of righteous thinking people advising AAB. <BR/>There are plenty of issues to be addressed not only for the Indians but also Malays, Chinese and other ethnic groups in Malaysia. I sincerely hope AAB can view these issues postively and start cracking or find solutions to some of these long outstanding problems. <BR/>I presume the Mentri Besars are also educated lots and intelligent enough not to go around destroying 'places of religious significance'. I hope there will be absolute restrain before giving orders to destroy places of religious significance.<BR/>I think it is high time that all of us start thinking, behave, caring and be respectful for each other needs as bangsa malaysia. I do not think it is very difficult to have such mindset.<BR/>I am an indian and have stayed in hostels during my school days with almost 100% Malays. And when I started working I stayed with a Malay family for 15 years. There were lots of respect and understanding amongst us. We went on as 'one family' without having to abuse each other. We respected each other's boundary, religion and beliefs. I still remain a Hindu despite having stayed with the Malay family.<BR/>Why can't this be a norm and way of living in this beautiful country?<BR/>I think all of us including the administration and politicians should begin to have a complete and thorough soul searching as to where we have deviated from being bangsa malaysia and the thrust to respect each other regardless of race, creed or religion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-46630013883467356302007-11-28T00:09:00.000+08:002007-11-28T00:09:00.000+08:00Malik Imtiaz Sarwar? Who are you? I thought i was ...Malik Imtiaz Sarwar? Who are you? I thought i was the only one in this country thinking like what you think. Every single day since schooling time, i was dreaming for a Malaysian Nation (bangsa Malaysia) where all are treated equally. I visualise that someday a chinese mom will discover her baby sleeping peacefully in a malay brother's (neighbor) house and they will say "dah lewat ni kak. biar dia tidur kat sini je". Esok kita hantar k". I dream that someday when an malay mom scold her child for some reason, that child will run over to her indian neighbor and weep on the indian mother's lap where she'll be advised like all mothers do. I dream of a place where people only identify themselves as malays, chinese,indians etc only by the colour of their skin. Other then that, all live like brothers and sisters of the same ancestor - Adam. I dream of a world where everyone respects every other bretherens' faith, systems and customs and be united under the name of honesty, integrity, peace and bliss. I dream of a heavely-earth. This is the first time i've visited this blog and Malik you sound like someone who sees what i was visualising. This blog enabled me to discover that i am not alone in this country. You showed me many. Malik who are you? And who is the other malay brother- whos name these people mention? Since when humans started to cultivate angelic attributes? I am happy to findout that i am not alone. I would be more then happy to get a glimps of people like you. May the Almighty shower His blessings endlessly on you and all the people like you. And may your hearts be unshakeable and your intentions remain the same till eternity. Peace to the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-22779725472102872412007-11-27T21:40:00.000+08:002007-11-27T21:40:00.000+08:00Good article. If only every malaysian had your fai...Good article. If only every malaysian had your fairness.<BR/><BR/>As for Hindraf rally, my support to you. Though hindu should not be the issue, but how long can one bear issues like breaking temples and family separation due to converting to islam.<BR/><BR/>Politicians must be reminded off and on that their role is to take care of every citizen no matter what race or religion.<BR/><BR/>What hindraf did was due to years of suppression, ill treatment and frustration. By constitution indians have every right to better himself but in reality suppression occurs in his path in every way. No one was interested in the indian's affairs when estates were and are converted to multi billion development projects. Temples are broken in accordance to what the authorities belief not according to the hindu customs.<BR/><BR/>Indians in malaysia cannot fight for their basic rights without the help of other races. Indians are a tolerant lot but suppression is definitely not the way.davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11708288855238877530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-88952419376031093572007-11-27T21:14:00.000+08:002007-11-27T21:14:00.000+08:00Dear readers,AAB is indeed a very good and nice ma...Dear readers,<BR/>AAB is indeed a very good and nice man. There is no doubt about this. It is the MPs and other cronies who are surrounding him the spoilers of this beautiful country. All we ask for is a serious analysis and evaluation of ground reality situation and assessment including the petition handed to AAB by Hindraf during its rally at Putrajaya. Only then we can move forward as a 'united nation and bangsa Malaysia'. GOD has blessed this country with rich resources including strong cultural and heritage benefits of the various ethnic races. I was watching a program today on TV1 this morning. It was all about cultural similarity between Malay and Indian marriages...how proud I was watching this. Why can't all main stream medias do the same rather than having a 'divide and rule mentality'. There is no maturity in journalism in this country. Just like any business entity we must harness our strength and improve on weaknesses. In the process if AAB has to get rid of 'deadwoods' and yes-men...for the good of this nation...let it be. AAB should seriously evaluate each and every MPs or BN Wakil Rayaat performance and take some educated decision as to whether these guys got to be kept or thrown out including Chief Ministers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-35770860042041756322007-11-27T18:26:00.000+08:002007-11-27T18:26:00.000+08:00Dear Mr Malik,AAB is a good man, but he is being i...Dear Mr Malik,<BR/>AAB is a good man, but he is being ill-advised on matters deemed 'politically sensitive'. Wanting his administration to be transparent (a good intention) should not just mean doing away with corruption but also being open in discussing and dealing with issues that concern the electorate. No doubt there will be sensitive issues involved, but it is better to hear them out and debate them as a mature nation should, than sweep them under the carpet and hope they will just go away (which they won't). Leaders lose their credibility when they insist on what is not evidently so under the full glare of the public eye.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-43632091975998866272007-11-27T17:28:00.000+08:002007-11-27T17:28:00.000+08:00The root cause of the HINDRAF march, which i belie...The root cause of the HINDRAF march, which i believe is not monetary. It is the manner and blatant disregard of the authorities and abuse of power by politicians in destroying places of worship, amongst other issues. You have a guy taking a pot-shot at one particular 'race' in the supply chain of newspaper distribution and blaming them for non-delivery of papers containing AAB speech during UMNO assembly which was on deepavali day. Don't tell me Khir 'Toyol' is not intelligent enough to understand sensitivities involving places of worship. One has to remember that temples did not go 'to development'. It was development that went to 'temple'. Estates sold out to Govt who then sold it to private entities. There was no Shah Alam 20 or more years ago. Why can't the authorities ensure that alternative places are given for temples when estates have been bought over for development. Is it too much to ask these 'intelligent lords'? The same government can deem fit that Zakaria can build his 'palace' in a low cost housing area and nothing being done despite public outcry. You have turn 'one-eye' MP who says in Parliament that Malays are forgiving for not marching against rich Chinese and Indians...just imagine the kind of mentalities our MPs posses. You have another MP who is only interested in the 'tunnels' of Air Asia staff!!! You have another Minister telling the parliament as to why Hindraf did not give the petition to AAB. Isn't he informed of the petition given to AAB during Hindraf gathering in Putrajaya? How come our MPs are all disinformed of what's going on? Just because a back-bencher of BN raised the issue of problems faced by Indians which resulted in the Hindraf march, MP Nazri was quoted as saying that this particular elected representative should resign from MIC!!!! If we have such kind of elected representatives who are wearing 'blinkers' how do we expect problems to be resolved and tackled in a fair and intelligent manner? Come on government MPs...why don't you guys do a thorough soul searching and conduct an intelligent post-mortem of recent events to improve the 'state of denials' in our beautiful country. Whether the readers of this blog accept or not...Malaysia is indeed a paradise, safe and beautiful country. It is the people in power who are spoilers.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-14023758783539450362007-11-27T17:10:00.000+08:002007-11-27T17:10:00.000+08:00Anonymous at 4.26pm,agreed. The issue is why the c...Anonymous at 4.26pm,<BR/><BR/>agreed. The issue is why the community supporting HINDRAF feels the way it does. The analysis must start there. And, as has been pointed out by many, the Indian community (in particular the Tamils) are facing serious difficulties. This may be due to a problem with political leadership, or a lack of it. This may be due to policies which are not even. Whatever the case, the analysis must start.<BR/><BR/>The government's stance is by now no longer unfamiliar. We repeatedly hear denials - unfair elections, judicial crisis, marginalization. It seems that everyone is so busy denying everything that no one has the time to listen.<BR/><BR/>And though I have said that I do not agree with the HINDRAF campaign and methodology, I will readily admit that the rally has started discussion on a more serious and significant level. That is a good thing.<BR/><BR/>I only hope that the government does not seize the opportunity to 'racialise' civil society efforts as a whole and clamp down across the board. This would be regrettable.<BR/><BR/>MISMalik Imtiaz Sarwarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06047439912593830984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-24313334101899139842007-11-27T16:26:00.000+08:002007-11-27T16:26:00.000+08:00I wish members of the ruling party will stop takin...I wish members of the ruling party will stop taking turns being on the defensive and proclaiming that Indians are not marginalised.<BR/>They should see that the issue is not whether Indians or any community is marginalised.<BR/>The issue is WHY the Indians BELIEVE they are marginalised, and that is what should be discussed.<BR/>If the Ministers keep publicly insisting that Indians are not marginalised, then they are supporting the Hindraf leaders' point, which is that they are not going to be heard in this country and that is why they have to resort to petitioning the British monarch. <BR/>MIS, do you agree?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-48227445136752199262007-11-27T14:33:00.000+08:002007-11-27T14:33:00.000+08:00A response on what timmy, ketua krani and various ...A response on what timmy, ketua krani and various others' comments: -<BR/><BR/>This whole issue has never been about money. Its about freedom of many sorts, which also includes freedom of expression. This issue just escalated since the local government started demolishing Hindu temples in Selangor & KL. How much both of you know about this? Reported more than 70 Hindu temples demolished in Selangor itself, isn't that a religous agenda? Of course the authorities claim those temples were built on squatter land, but when a local family can be relocated from squatters to a decent lodge, why not the same approach or offer to a place of faith? I'd say the only reason the lawsuit has been filed is to create awareness among the global audience. Now tell me, if your place of faith were demolished and unattended to thereafter, will you stay quiet? I won't.<BR/><BR/>From a liberal Catholic who respects and believes that all Gods represent a sole entity of divine greatness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-78345480711590909282007-11-27T09:22:00.000+08:002007-11-27T09:22:00.000+08:00taken from the star online 27/11.excerpts.Internal...taken from the star online 27/11.<BR/>excerpts.<BR/>Internal Security and Public Order deputy director Senior Asst Comm (I) Datuk Jamaludin Khalid said police only moved in on the demonstrators after receiving a report at about 2am that demonstrators had trespassed into the temple compound. <BR/><BR/>“We exercised maximum restraint and acted in an appropriate manner. Our objective was to control the situation and retain law and order without causing any untoward incident,” he said. <BR/><BR/>Admitting that water cannons and tear gas were used to disperse the crowd, SAC Jamaluddin said they were forced to do so as the demonstrators pelted his officers and men with stones and bricks. <BR/><BR/>He said: “I must stress that police did not fire tear gas or use water canons inside the temple premises to disperse the more than 1,000 gathered there.” <BR/><BR/>- Please look at this link at screenshots and tell me who is the one lying?<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://www.jeffooi.com/2007/11/hindraf_rally_ethnic_minority_1.php#moreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-16183658937002282882007-11-27T04:16:00.000+08:002007-11-27T04:16:00.000+08:00Dear MISI wish to bring everyone back to reality h...Dear MIS<BR/>I wish to bring everyone back to reality here. Post BERSIH/HINDRAF, there has been no change in the status quo. We are still talking about change. BERSIH had broken and made inroads. HINDRAF has shown no fear on that inroads. What else can we hope for? Except for the elections there seems to be nothing more. Will the flames of all who have shown DEFIANCE burn out by then? I only hope that the people that matter decide to sit and unite for a cause that is trully BANGSA MALAYSIA for once (at least in my lifetime, please)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-43630668253417539752007-11-27T01:41:00.000+08:002007-11-27T01:41:00.000+08:00Imtiaz.Am thankful for the work that you have done...Imtiaz.<BR/>Am thankful for the work that you have done and continue to strive on. i think it is not easy.<BR/>i am a christian and was a proud malaysian. remember that during my varsity days, we had special tuition classes for indians. n in almost every abandoned children home, the percentage of indians there are higher than the population. this grieves me. surely, they are in need. We can help in many small ways of people who are marginalized and are in need.amokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11796429650849780970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-41568457673640145782007-11-27T00:15:00.000+08:002007-11-27T00:15:00.000+08:00I believe the time is ripe to be united under one ...I believe the time is ripe to be united under one banner - and it must not be race or religion based. I fully endorse the ideas of Timmy and Weareallmalaysians. Issues have to go down to the root causes of sickness prevailing in this country which is in a 'state of denial'. All marginalised Malaysians should now stand as one united force and not individually as Malays, Chinese, Indians or other ethnic races of Malaysia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com