tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post2173040941197587420..comments2023-10-25T19:40:32.887+08:00Comments on Disquiet: In Defence Of Bangsa MalaysiaMalik Imtiaz Sarwarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06047439912593830984noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-39998529196042076272008-06-03T01:53:00.000+08:002008-06-03T01:53:00.000+08:00I can't speak on behalf of all 'Malaysian Chinese'...I can't speak on behalf of all 'Malaysian Chinese' in Malaysia because i can't read their mind.<BR/><BR/>Personally i accepted the political reality that the 'Malaysian Malays' being the majority will never lose their political power now or in the near future unless they themselves destroy this country.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, why should i challenge them. All i am asking as a fellow citizen(born & bred) of this country is to be treated as Malaysian, period! Not to be refer as Malaysian of Chinese descent.<BR/><BR/>When i travel to Hong Kong and Japan, these foreigners refer to me as Malaysian but back home when i got to fill up forms where there is a column asking for my keturunan.<BR/><BR/>UMNO politicians or all politicians for that matter don't need to play racial card for their own political survival. Ain't the survival of Malaysians and Malaysia is more paramount.CaptainCavemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15599776947002871864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-33890666391059906792008-06-02T22:07:00.000+08:002008-06-02T22:07:00.000+08:00i like the idea of bangsa Malaysia, but just could...i like the idea of bangsa Malaysia, but just couldnt accept the fact that Negara Malaysia with Bahasa Malaysia as the 'bahasa kebangsaan' cannot be spoken by some who want to be called as 'bangsa Malaysia' ..so..where got bangsa Malaysia maaa? ..we will forever have, orang Melayu and orang Cina-Malaysia..orang India-Malaysia.. huhu ...www.radziqjalaludin.blogspot.comNarqes-Radziqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05326756994077334901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-52264283005936536702008-05-31T16:09:00.000+08:002008-05-31T16:09:00.000+08:00On Mahathir, it is indeed incitement. And many hav...On Mahathir, it is indeed incitement. And many have faced charges for much less. What is more dangerous is that he has the capacity to actualise the incitement into deeds too whereas most of us who blog or comment will not get our onw siblings to even sit up and take notice of what we might have to say. Well me at least. <BR/><BR/>Of the Bangsa Malaysia spirit, just today, in the NST, Najib has made reference to it in a positive way. But he only cites it as an ultimate goal that may be far in the distant future. <BR/><BR/>But that is to be expected from any BN politician. After all, is not BN constituted of people, who to begin with, believe in the premise that this country is made up of different communitites separated in the first instance by race and that they are in competition with one another? <BR/><BR/>The supposition is that in this competition one's gain is supposedly at the other's loss. Its not just economics, It is social status, structures, opportunities, education, power, authority etc. <BR/><BR/>UMNO's most urgent message to its members and wider constituents is and has mostly been, the protection and defence of their rights and privileges. Obviously even PAS does nto seem to have issue with this as they too compete with UMNO to be the Malay's number one protector and defender. Whatever that means.<BR/><BR/>Similarly the other race based parties too screech and shout their most important role, according to them, that they are the ones to take care of our interests and to protect us. I often have to ask, from whom? <BR/><BR/>They seem to think their relevence to thepolitcal scheme of things as playing the role of protector in a field where lapses in attention might result in grave losses to the race and community. <BR/><BR/>Indeed I have wondered how a Cape Malay from South Africa or a Sri Lankan Malay from Sri Lanka would view his kinsfolk in Malaysia. His expectation of the Malay in Malaysia, for being the ones who are the majority, the ones in power and the ones with the keys to the resources of the country must surely seem contradictory to the realisty that he might see here.<BR/><BR/>The Cape Malay after having being subjected to an Apartheid regime and of a minority race and religion would find it strange that the Malaysian Malay seems to need all these extra privileges and protection. He might actually wonder if indeed the Malaysian Malay has not necessarily evolved into the full potential that the rest of us humans have. How else does he explain to himself all these reasons that UMNO cites for as to why it is relevant and why a strong UMNO is needed by the Malays. <BR/><BR/>The racist politics of the BN assumes the races are in competition with one another and they have to be grouped according to their constituents with the majority laying down the rules for eveyone to follow. <BR/><BR/>Bangsa Malaysia deconstructs that assumption. Bangsa Malaysia sees us all coming together with a single goal for ourselves. In this setting UMNO finds itself lost. MCA and MIC become redundant. <BR/><BR/>Really, unlike the stark almost class based different approaches that one might be able to see in the economies of countries like the UK, USA and so on depending on which political party is ruling here in Malaysai, because the focus has always been on satisfying the races, the economy that was set on cruise control by the British before Merdeka, has continued to operate unabated almost all these 50 years. <BR/><BR/>Of course we have the NEPs and the Felda schemes. Otherwise the self propelled entrepreneurship of individuals have basically been left to their own devices. Thankfully, they have done well despite the lack of out and out backing that businesses in some countries get from their governments. <BR/><BR/>For our own welfare, politics that assumes a singular race, the Bangsa Malasyia race, has to take over so that focus can shift to the more important areas of economy, infrastructure, society and so on. The racist premise of the BN has ensured we have forgone a lot of opportunities and resources. We just have to see the loss in the economic and other frustrated migrants out of this country.Old Farthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06473446507494861946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-30136215280971914212008-05-30T14:04:00.000+08:002008-05-30T14:04:00.000+08:00Anonymous at 12.53,good question. I do not view th...Anonymous at 12.53,<BR/><BR/>good question. I do not view the Sedition Act and the ISA as being constitutional. I do however agree with the offence of incitement (on racial and religious grounds). I would ask the Attorney General and the IGP to take the necessary steps to investigate into whether there was basis for a prosecution. If so, then charges should be preferred and the matter taken to court. Tun Dr M would have his day in court.<BR/><BR/>The Home Minister does not have the power to commence prosecutions. That is within the domain of the AG. If he should however choose not to prosecute without good reason, if there was in fact a case, then the AG must be made to answer to cabinet. That is something the Home Minister can call for.<BR/><BR/>I appreciate that I have described an ideal scenario. Nothing however justifies the invoking of unconstitutional law to stop a wrong. Our fundamental rights cannot be allowed to be shaped by expediency.<BR/><BR/>MISMalik Imtiaz Sarwarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06047439912593830984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-87967132223456403422008-05-30T12:53:00.000+08:002008-05-30T12:53:00.000+08:00I note you have avoided calling for Tun Dr. Mahath...I note you have avoided calling for Tun Dr. Mahathir to be arrested and charged for sedition re his inflammatory comments for that, as you have stated, is the ordinary consequence flowing from his recent speeches. He is a very dangerous man if the past is to afford any yardstick. <BR/><BR/>It might not be consistent with your liberal views that we should have freedom of speech but surely the risk of chaos and anarchy is too high a price to pay if someone like him is allowed to peddle their filth in an attempt to overthrow the democratically elected Prime Minister of this country. As a matter of fact, what would you do if you were the Home Minister, bearing in mind the ex- PM has in your view, 'crossed the line'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-90582095870392682512008-05-30T11:04:00.000+08:002008-05-30T11:04:00.000+08:00I couldnt agree more with you Sir, that was a hood...I couldnt agree more with you Sir, that was a hood article I feel. :)<BR/><BR/>The question now is whether the people in UMNO will realize that there is indeed a need to reform what umno is about, probably not reform as in change completely, but they have tune in what exactly is relevant for the current situation. And another thing is whether the people (the Malays particularly) are willing to accept the change of mindset about this new way of thinking. Yes, indeed might take some time for all to change, but judging from what is happening, we can see things ARE changing, albeit slowly.<BR/><BR/>And another matter about what you saya about "No non-Malay politicians are challenging the status of the Malays", I don't know whether that is the real truth, but in reality, the racial sentiments we can see among the blog posts, comments and th estreets are otherwise. These people might not be politicians yes, but there are some very serious hatred going on too, particularly (i'm guessing) towards the Malays by non-malays. So there is something wrong going on somehwhere too. But agian, we cannot blame the polticians, the public can be conditioned to have it in them, by society, their peers and also their family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1181672827682662169.post-76376524254258169602008-05-30T11:00:00.000+08:002008-05-30T11:00:00.000+08:00Tentu tidak dapat kita bayangkan kesukaran yang mu...Tentu tidak dapat kita bayangkan kesukaran yang mungkin kita hadapi kalau setiap negeri di dalam Malaysia merupakan Negara-negara yang merdeka dengan pemerintahan sendiri.<BR/><BR/>Kesukaran yang amat ketara ialah kita kena berhenti disetiap sempadan negeri untuk proses memeriksa dan mencop passport kita setiap kali kita keluar masuk antara satu negeri ke negeri yang lain. Dan mungkin kita perlukan memohon visa jika ingin tinggal lebih lama di negeri lain.<BR/><BR/>Beratur panjang untuk membayar tol lebuh raya pun kita sudah berasa rimas apatah lagi terpaksa beratur untuk berdepan dengan kerenah imegresyen dan kastam.<BR/><BR/>Katakan kita tinggal di Johor, dan kita ada urusan atau ingin melancung dengan menaiki kereta ke Pulau pinang, ini bermakna kita terpaksa berhenti untuk pemeriksaan imegresyen di enam sempadan negeri iaitu di sempadan Negeri Melaka, di sempadan Negeri Sembilan, di sempadan Negeri Selangor, di sempadan Negeri Perak, di sempadan Negeri Kedah dan akhir sekali di sempadan Negeri Pulau Pinang.<BR/><BR/>Mungkin lebih mudah kita menggunakan pengangkutan udara tetapi kosnya mungkin lebih mahal dan kita jadi ‘patah kaki’ kerana tidak dapat membawa kenderaan sendiri.<BR/><BR/>Tetapi syukurlah keadaan seperti di atas tidak berlaku dan saya percaya semua kita tidak mahu perkara seperti itu berlaku pada masa akan datang dan sampai bila-bila pun. Walaupun kita asalnya orang Negeri Sembilan tapi kita bebas bergerak, bekerja dan tinggal di mana-mana sahaja di dalam Malaysia yang kita suka.<BR/><BR/>Hanya kita rakyat Malaysia sahaja yang dapat merasakan bagaimana nikmatnya dan selesanya kita bebas bergerak ke semua negeri-negeri dalam Malaysia ini. Sekalipun kalau diberi pilihan setiap negeri untuk berpisah dan memerintah sendiri pasti tidak ramai rakyat yang berminat dengan pilihan itu.<BR/><BR/>Dan saya percaya kalau rakyat Singapura diberikan keistimewaan bergerak bebas untuk keluar masuk ke Malaysia, tanpa perlu kepada pemeriksaan passport dan kastam, mereka bebas untuk tinggal dan bekerja di mana-mana saja mereka suka di Malaysia tanpa permit dan visa seperti rakyat Malaysia lainnya tentulah mereka tidak akan menolak keistimewaan yang diberikan kepada mereka itu.<BR/><BR/>Selama ini rakyat Singapura yang lebih 4 juta itu tertumpu dan berhimpit dalam satu negara pulau yang kecil. Keinginan rakyatnya untuk keluar masuk ke Malaysia memang tidak boleh dinafikan.<BR/><BR/>Dari segi sejarahnya, geografinya dan sosial budayanya, Singapura dan Malaysia khasnya Semenanjung memang amat dekat dan rapat. Rakyat dari kedua-dua negara ini kerap keluar masuk bukan sahaja disebabkan untuk membeli belah atau urusan kerja tetapi juga untuk menziarah sanak-saudara mereka. Sebahagian besar rakyat Singapura tidak kira mengira kaum, samada Cina, Melayu atau India mempunyai pertalian darah atau sanak saudara di Semenanjung Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>Pertalian darah ini bukan sahaja telah berlaku sebelum negara ini merdeka lagi tetapi ia berterusan hingga hari ini kerana wujudnya hubungan yang dekat dari segi geografi, budaya dan bahasa mereka, menyebabkan ramai rakyat Singapura yang berkahwin dengan rakyat Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>Oleh itu kalau di peringkat rakyat biasa, kita mungkin tidak menghadapi masalah besar untuk mencantumkan kedua-dua negara ini semula, malah mungkin mereka amat mengalu-alukanya. Halangan yang ada mungkin datang dari pemimpin-pemimpin politik yang masing-masing mempunyai kepentingan yang berlainan.<BR/><BR/>Bagaimanapun perkembangan politik yang menggalakan berlaku di Malaysia baru-baru ini sedikit sebanyak mungkin dapat membuka mata pemimpin-pemimpin politik Singapura untuk menilai semula pilihan untuk bercantum semula dengan Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>Situasi Singapura dan Malaysia ini tidak banyak berbeza dengan Negara Vietnam di suatu masa dulu yang pernah berpisah sebagai dua negara iaitu Vietnam Utara dan Vietnam Selatan, Negara Jerman yang pernah berpisah sebagai Negara Jerman Barat dan Jerman Timur, Negara Yaman yang pernah berpisah sebagai Negara Yaman Utara dan Yaman Selatan.<BR/><BR/>Semua Negara-negara yang disebutkan tadi mempunyai rakyat yang sama dari segi ras dan sosial budaya tetapi negara mereka dipecahkan disebabkan perbezaan politik. Apabila keadaan politik kedua-dua negara itu mengizinkan untuk bercantum maka mereka tidak menghadapi masalah besar untuk melaksanakannya.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04399347358187397182noreply@blogger.com